{"id":63924,"date":"2024-02-14T01:00:49","date_gmt":"2024-02-13T22:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wingulamashahidi.org\/?p=63924"},"modified":"2025-12-10T12:40:27","modified_gmt":"2025-12-10T09:40:27","slug":"ist-hier-gott-gemeint-oder-engel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wingulamashahidi.org\/de\/2024\/02\/14\/ist-hier-gott-gemeint-oder-engel\/","title":{"rendered":"Ist hier Gott gemeint oder Engel?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong style=\"font-size: revert; color: initial;\">Frage:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Widersprechen sich die Aussagen in Psalm 8,4\u20135 und Hebr\u00e4erbrief 2,6\u20137? Psalm\u202f8 sagt, der Mensch sei \u201eein wenig geringer gemacht als Gott\u201c, w\u00e4hrend Hebr\u00e4er 2 davon spricht, dass er \u201eein wenig geringer gemacht worden als die Engel\u201c sei. Was stimmt?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Antwort:<\/strong><br \/>\nAuf den ersten Blick mag das verwirrend wirken \u2014 doch die Bibel widerspricht sich hier nicht.<\/p>\n<p>Betrachten wir zun\u00e4chst die Texte:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Psalm 8,4\u20136 (Lutherbibel 2017):<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eWenn ich sehe die Himmel, deiner Finger Werk, den Mond und die Sterne, die du bereitet hast;<br \/>\nwas ist der Mensch, dass du seiner gedenkst, und des Menschen Kind, dass du dich seiner annimmst?<br \/>\nDu hast ihn wenig niedriger gemacht als Gott, mit Ehre und Herrlichkeit hast du ihn gekr\u00f6nt.\u201c (<a title=\"Psalm 8 | Lutherbibel 2017 | Bibel TV\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibeltv.de\/bibelthek\/LUT\/ps-8?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">Bibel TV<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Hebr\u00e4er 2,6\u20137 (Lutherbibel 2017):<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eWas ist der Mensch, dass du seiner gedenkst, oder des Menschen Sohn, dass du dich seiner annimmst?<br \/>\nDu hast ihn ein wenig geringer gemacht als die Engel; mit Ehre und Herrlichkeit hast du ihn gekr\u00f6nt.\u201c (<a title=\"Hebr\u00e4er 2 | Lutherbibel 2017 | Bibel TV\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibeltv.de\/bibelthek\/LUT\/hebr-2?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">Bibel TV<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Der Schl\u00fcssel zum Verst\u00e4ndnis liegt im hebr\u00e4ischen Originalwort <strong>\u201eElohim\u201c<\/strong>, das im Alten Testament verwendet wird. Dieses Wort wird in Psalm 8 oft als \u201eGott\u201c \u00fcbersetzt \u2014 aber es kann je nach Kontext auch \u201eg\u00f6ttliche Wesen, himmlische M\u00e4chte\u201c bedeuten, also Engel oder himmlische Wesen. (<a title=\"Psalm 8 :: Elberfelder Bibel\u00fcbersetzung Edition CSV\" href=\"https:\/\/www.csv-bibel.de\/bibel\/psalm-8?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">csv-bibel.de<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Als der Autor des Hebr\u00e4erbriefes auf Psalm 8 Bezug nahm \u2014 in griechischer Sprache \u2014 w\u00e4hlte er die \u00dcbersetzung \u201eEngel\u201c. Damit dr\u00fcckt er eine theologische Nuance aus: Der Mensch steht zwar nahe bei den himmlischen Wesen, ist jedoch nicht gleich ihnen. Damit betont er die Stellung des Menschen innerhalb der geistlichen Ordnung. (<a title=\"Lower than the angels\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lower_than_the_angels?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">Wikipedia<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Daher widerspricht Hebr\u00e4er 2 Psalm 8 nicht \u2014 er erweitert oder erkl\u00e4rt, was mit \u201eGott\u201c im Alten Bund im hebr\u00e4ischen Verst\u00e4ndnis gemeint sein kann: n\u00e4mlich nicht nur der eine wahre Gott, sondern das biblisch breite Konzept g\u00f6ttlicher\/himmlischer Wesen (Engel, himmlische M\u00e4chte). Damit bleibt die W\u00fcrde des Menschen als Ebenbild und mit hoher Berufung bestehen \u2014 zugleich wird klar: Er ist nicht g\u00f6ttlich im Sinne von Gott selbst, sondern teil der g\u00f6ttlichen Sch\u00f6pfungsordnung.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00f6ge Gottes Wort dich leiten und segnen.<\/p>\n<div class='share-to-whatsapp-wrapper'><div class='share-on-whsp'>Share on: <\/div><a data-text='Ist hier Gott gemeint oder Engel?' data-link='https:\/\/wingulamashahidi.org\/de\/2024\/02\/14\/ist-hier-gott-gemeint-oder-engel\/' class='whatsapp-button whatsapp-share'>WhatsApp<\/a><div class='clear '><\/div><\/div><p class=\"wpf_wrapper\"><a class=\"print_link\" href=\"\">Print this post<\/a><\/p><!-- .wpf_wrapper -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Frage: Widersprechen sich die Aussagen in Psalm 8,4\u20135 und Hebr\u00e4erbrief 2,6\u20137? 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